Thanks for the review, helped my decision a lot. - Tacx Flux Smart T2900 Fietstrainer a +- 550 EUR - Ant+ ontvanger a +- 50 EUR - Casette +- 40 EUR (mag gewoon een goedkopere zijn, toch enkel voor op de trainer) - Zwift abonnement (15 EUR per maand dacht ik gelezen te hebben). Is there an ETA for its release? This reaction time and accuracy are both tested here. Be one of the 1st in Canada to have your own TacX Flux S Smart magnetic training base. I did some testing with Flux S back in October w/ low cadence 1 minute intervals on ERG mode. Available: Feb. Search forums. One is for general power (green), the next for Bluetooth Smart connectivity (Blue), and the last for ANT+ connectivity (red). But as it creeps up to $899 (which it shouldn’t, but just putting pricing in perspective), the clear winner there is the CORE. (For US & European users). If you’re interested in indoor training but are put off by the price of direct-drive trainers, the Tacx Flux S could be what you’re looking for, priced under £600 / $800 – under-cutting many of its competitors such as the Elite Suito and Wahoo Kickr Core. Even if you don't have a 4K TV, the 4K version has more powerful graphics than the base, worth the extra $30. At 23.6kg the Flux S feels rooted to the floor however hard you push it, whether in or out of the saddle. The Flux S is no more quiet than the original Flux, it’s also not really any more powerful either. I’m hoping it’s something I’ve done, but the installation is pretty easy. In which case I’ll slide it a day to accommodate those. Achetez-le ici! This is happening to me and my chain comes off if I stop pedalling or slowdown using this unit. I wish I could get weight off. 548/505/487/43. How about the Zumo? – Handle: This unit lacks a handle, which continues to be a bit of an oddity compared to other brands. Equipment. Can It do the job? The trainer is a great introduction to direct drive smart turbos. Especially since it’s likely that you’d be getting a Spring 2018 onwards Flux 1, which includes *everything* internal that the Flux S has, save the longer feet. KICKR Snap, Tacx Vortex, CycleOps Magnus, Elite Rampa). In fact, most trainers can actually provide far more resistance than they’re rated for. “Tacx has officially listed the trainer at +/-5%, which is on par for wheel-on trainers in the $500-$600 range (i.e. In generally, I’m satisfied even with this minor (or maybe not) issue. Once you’ve got the trainer ready, you’ll attach your bike to it using the included trainer skewer: As noted, the trainer isn’t silent. Here’s a bunch of random trip reports and daily trip-logs that I’ve put together and posted. Any smart trainer is a brand new not-annoying training world. Buy the Tacx Flux S turbo trainer from Wiggle here Once I’ve assessed the distance from the nearest wall socket and plugged the Tacx Flux S into the mains, we’re good to go. Tacx Neo Smart – $1,369: Top of the line direct drive trainer that’s virtually silent, can replicate road vibrations too, no cassette included Geluid. Do they have a list of events somewhere? And finally, here’s a handy list of trainer accessories that most folks getting a smart trainer for the first time might not have already: There's no better bang for your buck in getting Zwift (or FulGaz/etc) on your big screen TV than Apple TV - it's the primary way I Zwift. In the case of simulation (aka slope) mode, the Tacx Flux S can simulate from 0% to 10% incline – which is pretty darn high. You need to do some assembly by fitting the front legs, but this only takes a few minutes and an Allen key is supplied to make things easy. Search titles only. The Tacx feel. If you’re trying to decide which unit to buy – check out my in-depth reviews section. The Flux S is a great example where this is a known issue, they changed manufacturing and QA for it, etc, and the guy was totally clueless. For comparison, the big brothers of these home trainers (Elite Drivo and Tacx Neo Smart) are able to develop respectively 2000W and 2200W. Reliable, accurate, quiet, strong, and it has a great ride feel. My Flux does provide some meaningful resistance, even when not plugged i, I would say. Try switching to the smaller ring in the front, that’ll help responsiveness (it’s also what TrainerRoad recommends for ERG mode). I tend to re-use sets across multiple reviews. With that, do you find it a pain to recalibrate it havinf first done a 10-minute warm-up? Baked in cadence data is handy if you’re connecting to Zwift on an Apple TV, due to Apple TV’s two concurrent Bluetooth Smart sensor limitation (plus the Apple TV remote). Yeah, it’s been on my to-do list. Plus, you'll be more awesome. I would like to support DCR and enjoy ad-free DC Rainmaker ($20 per year). How are ratings calculated? Either way the whole experience just felt wrong compared to the flow, which had no issues in the big ring. De Tacx Flux is het kleinere broertje van de Tacx Flux 2 Smart T2980. Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. Noise levels or the lack of them impressed me too. Erg mode really struggled to maintain consistent power, on the flow I would by big ring at front and middle of casette, but with the flux this gearing was hitting about 15 watts above my 220 target in erg mode so was forced to change gear. It seems to happen after about 3-4 minutes in this ride though (I never stopped pedaling). Plus I will need to pack away after use. Koop hem hier! riding the 2020 World Champs course on the Tacx app), anything over 200-220W on false flats, flats or descents induces an almighty vibration through the whole bike – it’s like riding a washing machine on spin cycle. 7.6kg and gives the trainer a good ride feel. Do you mean RD-R8000-SS vs RD-R8000-GS? They don’t just check over the whole car before they give it to you. Usually hardware/software bugs aren’t worked out, manufacturing isn’t up to speed yet, etc.. Linus Tech Tips on YouTube did a really good video earlier this year on it, in relation to computer processors sent to reviewers (which YT search is currently not finding for me). We verloten iedere maand onder alle reviewers 2 x € 250,-. Par for the course for these trainers, and about what I’d look for. Thus, while it’s possible to mount a MTB on the Flux, it’s perhaps better to think of it as a trainer best suited to road bikes. But most of this all boils down to two core methods: ERG Mode: Setting a specific power level – i.e., 210w. Later in the ride though I see a less pronounced variant of this, where the spin-up speed is slower than the Stages and SRM. The price seems right on this for me but I’m bummed about the 10% limit. I’m not sure the videos capture just how strong the vibrations are, because they’re not hugely noisy! While the Tacx Flux S technically is in two pieces, it’s silly easy to assemble (as you might have seen in the video above). The main takeaway here is that once I sorted my speed items – accuracy wise and resistance wise, things were spot-on. Some good deals on just now, my 20% platinum discount at Wiggle got me a Flux S for £439, which I reckon is a great buy. – Pricing and Availability: $749/€599, already shipping as of this week. From Ray’s review, the Drivo 1 sounds an extremely solid trainer: link to dcrainmaker.com. This is the property that determines my future purchase. Thanks Ray for such valuable information and your expertise. Menu Log in Register Forums. Keep in mind in the above case it wasn’t an all-out sprint. Don't overthink this. When you ship something defective, with a problem that’s been known for years that you claim you already fixed, I think you need to stand up and do more. And it’s here that we see the key differences between the Flux S and the Flux 2, whereby the Flux 2 is engineered to allow slower/lower speeds for higher wattages (and thus, higher inclines). 402/384/374/52 I’ve sorted it all by world geography, in an attempt to make it easy to figure out where I’ve been. I typically buy Shimano Ultegra cassettes for my trainers (mostly for sound-testing consistency across videos), but I’ve also done a few SRAM ones and whatever else happens to be on sale from the bike shop. Some reviews are over 60 pages long when printed out, with hundreds of photos! Bug-ridden? Tacx Flux S Smart Bike Trainer, Black, Model:T2900S.60. Can it be over-ridden in apps if you use a real cadence sensor? My brain can only turn off so much of that. The Flux S is now red. Spec-wise they are super similiar: link to dcrainmaker.com. If you don’t have a long cage derailleur I don’t see any reason to get the Flux S over the original Flux. You can use it as well for your own gadget comparisons, more details here.). Noel har testet Flux S fra Tacx, den opdaterede Flux der nu passer til endnu mere cykler. This matches what I noted a second ago where the units properly align at higher wattages, but the SRM seems to be reading lower at lower wattages. In any case, let’s move onto a Zwift ride. Just had a look at the Tacx FLUX Facebook page and there’s still loads of folk having issues with them I’m begining to wonder if I’ve made one almighty mistake. Hard to know. And being awesome is what it’s all about! I'm one of the ones that do. Tacx Neo Bike Smart – $3,199: A full indoor bike built atop the Neo. This is all in addition to the trainer itself. So, it’s still the subject for further observation: ). De Tacx Flux S fietstrainer verbindt met iedere telefoon en tablet en geeft tot maar liefst 1500 Watt een stille, maar realistische fietstraining! The Tacx Flux S trainer’s footprint measures. I’m from out of the country and will be visiting the US, what’s the best triathlon shop in city XYZ? Although, realistically, you don’t care about that. This is a Ultegra cassette, you can save about $10-$15 by picking up a Shimano 105 instead. Only 1 app can control the trainer but multiple apps can receive the transmitted data from the trainer. They send a whole team to set the car up for the specific track and only let you drive that specific track. It seems that this trainer isn’t compatible with my Tarmac SL6 with a standard 130mm axle. Of course, we’ll get to all the technical details in a bit. Noise. The stable design ensures maximum stability even during explosive sprints. Users of Elite, Wattbike Atom and Wahoo units may be used to a smoother ‘ride.’ This is not a huge issue and one down to personal preference. Het meet jouw vermogen nauwkeurig binnen 3,0%. The resistance they go to will, usually, be more than enough to give you a good workout. Except, you’ll notice around the 5-minute marker the SRM flips to be the lowest power. Quite frustrated really – have lost hours trying to troubleshoot, but I’m coming to the conclusion that it’s not me, but the trainer!! We recommend before every ride with the Snap for best results as the power will not be as accurate but if you are just looking to get a workout in you should be fine doing it once a week. I guess you need to figure out if it’s a gamble you can afford to take. On slopes 4% and above, all is fine. Jenson USA. Fantastic. And finally the more expensive Tacx Flux 2 at $899. For the price of the Flux 2, I would have gotten a KICKR Core, so that wasn’t going to fly. For my defective, brand new unit, they offered me a refurbished replacement (since they don’t have any new Flux S units in stock). Someone on YouTube commented that it was poor that Tacx didn’t do a special QA/QC on the initial unit they sent me. Becomes a complicated and interconnected web. Om daarachter te komen nemen we eerst de specificaties van de fietstrainer onder de loep, alvorens we naar het eindoordeel gaan. Actually, technically you have to slide that skewer through there. Heb ik nog iets anders nodig? And the current Neo can be bought for €990,-. See All Buying Options. Any way to “quantify” or put in relation? A delivery truck works fine too. As you weight goes down the relative max slope will go up. My Photography Gear: The Cameras and Equipment I Use Daily, DC Rainmaker 2019 swim, bike, run, and general gear list, Copyright DC Rainmaker - Updated February 5th, 2021 @ 4:49 am, Wired or Wireless data transmission/control, Can electronically control resistance (i.e. I should add that I use an 11-32t Shimano Ultegra cassette normally (I’m a spinner) so I’m only really interested in trainers that accommodate them and I’m a little unsure of what Tacx mean by long cage as I think cages are only branded as short and medium these days. Reviewed in the United States on October 3, 2020. Now that Tacx is owned by Garmin, support is good. Tacx Flux Smart review Direct-drive smart training with a solid design and some cost-cutting measures By Ben Delaney/Immediate Media 05 December 2017. The Tacx feel. 329/313/309/56 I’m headed to Paris – what do you recommend for training or sightseeing? You should check out my videos. Here you can see TrainerRoad paired as an ANT+ FE-C trainer with Windows: And one last time, here’s the trainer actually enumerated two ways on my Mac – one via Bluetooth Smart and one via ANT+ FE-C: All of this worked without issues for me. The calibration is pretty standard, spin the unit up, to 30km/hr and let it coast down. So then I went digging in yet another ride with a sprint in it – and sure enough, the same pattern: You can see that while the averages for that section are correct, the actual sprint power is delayed. Why haven’t you yet released a review for XYZ product you mentioned months ago? Thanks…!!! Check out
Tacx Flux Smart review Direct-drive smart training with a solid design and some cost-cutting measures By Ben Delaney/Immediate Media 05 December 2017. The local bike shop DID post to Facebook ahead of time, so I believe your best bet is to stay close to your local bike shop. The actual apps don’t typically much matter, but rather the use cases are different. Been troubleshooting Tacx Flux S dropout issues for almost a year now. Pre-order one today (quantities are limited). Still, it is fascinating to me how far we’ve come in just a few years with trainers. The Tacx Flux S can replicate up to gradients of 10 per cent and has a maximum 2,000 watts of resistance power. How does the noise level of Tacx Flux compare to a Tacx Neo and a Stac Zero? After sliding the cassette on, just validate it doesn’t wiggle any. cobblestones), Support rolldown procedure (for wheel based), +/- 2% (Sept 2018 models, +/- 2.5% for earlier models), Supports ANT+ FE-C (Trainer Control Standard), Supports Bluetooth Smart FTMS (Trainer Control Standard), Supports Multiple Concurrent Bluetooth connections. I had my first go on this today, I was previously using a tacx flow, this was also my first time using a direct drive trainer. Currently I can’t recommend the Flux S due to some issues I’m having – one of these being the same one DCR has. I called them and after a very pleasant 5 min call with a very knowledgeable staff person they had a new device shipped out to me despite the VA3 being a year or two out of warranty. I had a Kickr Core for one week and then it stoped working. I am upgrading from a Tacx Vortex to either a Direto 2 for $689 USD from a US retailer or a Tacx Flux S from Europe for $528 USD + 20 USD shipping. Doesn’t seem like Wahoo aggressively promotes these, which is an odd marketing approach. For me, in my testing, I used Zwift and TrainerRoad as my two main apps (which are the two main apps I use personally). . The Flux is the loudest, then the Neo, then the Stac Zero. As with most trainers these days it hooks up with smartphones, tablets, ANT+FE-C bike computers and connects via ANT+. £500 is about my max budget really. The FLUX S Smart has everything you are looking for in a Smart direct drive trainer. Points forts. The first couple of seconds I was shifting the gears a bit, so that’s why the power data is wobbly (totally normal). This is down to a combination of large footprint, well-placed legs and weight. I was having a rough day with WiFi interference next to a new router this day. Want to compare the features of each product, down to the nitty-gritty? You can hear it within the overview video linked at the start of the post. Le Tacx FLUX S Smart est une fiable, précis, silencieux et robuste trainer Smart. I had this on pre-order with Amazon UK but no shipment dates yet. The stable design ensures maximum stability even during explosive sprints. And lastly, if you felt this review was useful – I always appreciate feedback in the comments below. Thanks in advance. what kind of remote control you user for Zwift? – Max Wattage: 1,500 watts resistance True on #1. Then, using your fingers just thread the bolts in. It's quite noisy and I've had issues with the belt that resulted in me replacing it myself (a cheap and easy job). In this mode, it’s just like outdoors in that you can change your gearing to make it easier or harder. DC Rainmaker. -I don’t have a lot of inertia because in most scenarios, I don’t have a fast spinning flywheel (which is not the heaviest anyway) Tacx (well, Garmin) have said they’re not sure and to send videos of the unit vibrating, which I’ve done. 16th November 2020. -In ERG-Mode I have to shift quite often, because I have to be in a low gear that the inner resistance doesn’t exceed my target power, with such a low spinning flywheel, the trainer can’t add a lot of resistance via the magnetic induced resistance. And remember, the Flux S is the same unit, just with a different frame mold. Log in Register. And with that – installation is complete: Oh, technically you should plug it in. This impacts inertia and how it feels – primarily when you accelerate or otherwise change acceleration (such as briefly coasting). Thank you soooo much for your effort. Read tons about it here. Still, there’s lots of points where the units agree. In general, I’m not seeing much issue with temp drift on the current Flux units (or for that matter, really any other direct drive trainer these days). Is it possible to ride a GPS route on the Flux S controlled via a Wahoo Bolt head unit ? I have the 2017 Tacx Flux and a newish Windows PC, Zwift subscription and an android phone. Læs hans bedømmelse. Tacx Flux smart trainer review. Rated 4 de 5 de Poulpo21 par Très bon rapport qualité prix Ensemble satisfaisant. As those who watched the video above saw/heard, the first unit I unboxed and rode worked technically just fine. Here’s the data set. The cadence data is estimated. Body til Campagnolo og Sram XD og XD-R 12-speed geargrupper sælges separat. Yes, if you pair a separate cadence sensor it’ll override it. For the Tacx fans, this may not be an issue. Tacx, der nu er et brand under Garmin’s vinger, lancerede i efteråret 2018 Flux 2 – en opgraderet udgave af den første Flux. Ray mentioned, that “it does need power (110-240v) to provide any meaningful resistance.”. I take things to a whole new level of interactive depth! Smart Trainers Buyers Guide: Looking at a smart trainer this winter? But otherwise a really solid and reliable trainer to facilitate fitness gains. I've had this for years, and use it in places where I don't have a big screen or desk, but just an iPad or tablet on my road bike bars. Your email address will not be published. Home Trainer Tacx Flux Smart Noir T2900 est évalué 3.4 de 5 de 10. I want to buy a direct drive training for my winter biking and those are the 2 best options I have so far. However, the company initially produced a number (800 units according to Tacx) of faulty units and quickly shipped to market. I was also impressed with the cadence data provided by the Flux S, which matched my Vectors. Is that inner resistance normal or do I have a problem? “since Wahoo heavily restricts discounting…”. Tacx Flux 2 Smart – $899: Direct drive trainer with 16% incline and better low-speed resistance for climbs, no cassette included The Tacx Flux Smart Turbo Trainer T2900 offers a compact and highly realistic interactive direct drive experience. I just bought a Tacx Flux 2 for the replacement of my old Tacx Ironman trainer. Tacx Flux Smart review. Have a major problem. Nevertheless a power of 1400W or 1500W will be more than enough for most riders. Today I did my first ride on the Flux S and the trainer wasn’t able to control a power below about 150W with a pedaling frequency of 90 and a gear ration of 50/23. You can unsubscribe at any time. new to these smart trainers . link to bike-components.de, Neo 2 on Rose now has pictures too. It’s got a 6kg flywheel, which is on the better side of middle of the road. Obviously, much of what Tacx put into place for the Flux S is designed to mitigate those issues (especially since this is basically just a re-branded original Flux). Even when I take away the smoothing, the data still shows an inaccurate value in there: What’s actually unusual about this is that given we’re talking a 5-8 second sprint of about 600w, the trainer had more than enough time to catch-up, so I’m a bit surprised here. The new unit does not have that issue. Awesome! It's got multi-tier tablet slots, water bottle holders, non-stick surface, adjustable height and more. If the Apple Watch was more fit for training, I’d move there (tried it for 2 weeks, and it just didn’t cut it for me). Now, there’s a few things to note here. You can see it lags behind in this non-smoothed graph (whereas it’s obvious the Flux S is smoothed a bit, like all trainers). Ideally the legs, so they may be able to retrofit to the v1?! For comparison, here’s the price/feature points of some of the Tacx 2018 Trainer lineup (they have a pile of other trainers, these are the ones I’m considering most interesting/relevant): Tacx Flow Smart – 299EUR: Wheel-on trainer with 6% incline, all standards supported. Do you really have a problem with Tacx Flux S? Ce trainer est le compagnon d’entraînement idéal pour les nombreuses heures d’exercice intensif. In combination with your favourite app you will never get bored again. This is the second unit I’ve had to get because the first one sounded like an angle grinder. Met deze Flux S Smart geniet je van een zeer betrouwbare, krachtige en vooral soepele rijervaring, gewoon vanaf je eigen racefiets. The graph is showing resistance area with 39-19 gearing. I thought I would be all set but when running Zwift I couldn’t get the PC and the Trainer to work together although they were paired. Its fairly quiet and well worth spending the extra money on a direct drive smart trainer. I found that as long as things remained stable there was no impact on not doing so week to week. On my Flux v1 a Medium 6800 cage does catch the legs, but just means I can’t use my 28T (which I generally don’t require anyway, AdZ isn’t that steep!). They’re great. Practically speaking I feel like the Flux S has better road feel, which isn’t surprising given it has a bigger flywheel. I’m actually glad they didn’t. In this case you need the chainwhip since you can’t get a good grasp on the flywheel. – Compatibility: 130/135 QR in-box. After contacting Tacx about it they swapped out the unit immediately and took it apart. First is how quickly it responds to the commands of the application. Also had that quacking sound from the inside of my Flux, a v1 (T2900), bought earlier this fall. As a bonus, there’s real human and community interaction versus the soulless ecommerce experience! I’m going to put my good bike with power meter on both trainers at the weekend and see how they compare but at the minute, I feel like sending it back. Review: Tacx Flux 2. the body is simply like welded to the shaft (I have removed the black cap with a 5mm allen key.). Problems with connection ANT+ and Tacx Flux 2. Dit heeft geresulteerd in een breder simulatiebereik, beter fietsgevoel en nauwkeurigere vermogensmeting. It is the software that works out the resistance levels for the input weight. You'll support the site, and get ad-free DCR! Here we review the Tacx Flow Smart, a budget alternative to the great smart direct drive trainers out there. After they get to the point your fingers wimp out, use the included hex wrench. 292/277/276/49 26th August 2020 | Reviews, Trainers. -I can’t get that feeling of doing a downhill and spinning a high gear what you would usually have on a smart trainer (I guess?) You can probably tell from the question roughly what my budget is (in a Black Friday sale) and while I’d rather have a direct drive trainer, the Snap seems to be the best of the wheel-on versions. Given the Flux S is essentially of the same firmware as the Tacx Flux (original), it’s no surprise everything here is as expected. Anyways, back to the chart. Yup, pairs as a standard ANT+ FE-C trainer. It’s got a 6kg flywheel, which is on the better side of middle of the road. Best smart turbo trainers for indoor training. It doesn’t cost you anything extra, but your purchases help support this website a lot. Especially when you keep in mind that this trainer isn’t actually rated for super-high accuracy, being at +/- 3% claims. In fact, TrainerRoad themselves, in certain versions of the application, will even give you a warning about how trainers handle this and to change your gearing to make reaction time faster (another benefit of changing the gearing). And finally, as usual the Flux S is a media loaner and will go back to Tacx shortly. Tacx support suspects the noise to be caused by “the belt that has skipped from the roller”. That resulted in a number of defective units in the hands of customers […] That’s just my sense of it. Will see if the Bolt gives better results. Would it for example be possible to produce 400 watt when doing a cadence of 70-75rpm? Een vergelijking met de Neo en andere fietstrainers. It’s very slow and ponderous dealing with Wiggle (no phone service, and their chat function is a little buggy, so it’s emails all the way) but they’re basically pretty decent. By: Search Advanced search… New posts. June 30, 2020, 6:35pm #1. Lets be honest it’s not going to have a smooth ride like the Neo. Most outdoor ride type re-riding indoors solutions usually smooth the elevation data quite a bit to get it to work. Unfortunately cannot test these trainers closeby. Most all of the changes internally have been focused on manufacturing rather than features. It doesn't have smartphone/ANT+/Bluetooth integration, but it does have secondary outlets. Finally, I need to note that I actually had two Flux S units. Tacx Flux S Trainer Review – Using the Device. The dealer does not however stock the old Flux anymore, and my thought was that the noise would be gone for the Flux S, but apparently there still is a risk for ducks for the S…. Het maximale aantal watt dat je weg kunt trappen is 1500. There’s a slight surge you see there at the 29-second point where the units differ a bit, but nothing out of the ordinary for a 1-2 second peak difference between power meters. I even got to test out not one, but two different Flux S units for accuracy…among other things. Some of you have asked about that awesome tower of power in the background on past posts that I bought. When the 7.40 firmware killed the battery on my VA3 (known issue affecting certain production run) the same thing happened, I called them and they had a new one sent out (out of warranty) no questions asked.